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August 12, 2021 at 5:50 pm #294geektalkKeymaster
Here’s a fun article where we finally get some admission of the actual problems with Doctor Who. #doctorwho #JodieWhittaker #ripdoctorwho
screen rant finally blaming the personwe’ve been blaming all this time wheneverybody’s been calling us a bunch ofiss and phobes for not liking the newlady dr wham and dr lady wham and who[Music]personi mean how many times can we say that wedon’t like the way the show is beingwrittenand ran hello everyone i’m mecca iam your favorite youtube consumeradvocate harpy i have no idea where someof those little rantyrumblies come from but they just flowright out of the top of my brainso we go with them i don’t rehearse themi don’t say them or script themthey just go it’s like i’m possessedby whatever i’m possessed by and that’swho’s telling you to subscribe herethat’s why you’re here onmy channel of actual non-conformistpunk rock where we don’t go with thecrown and follow the herd wedon’t recite back the npc [ __ ]and one of the things that a lot of thenpcs have been saying and reciting backabout the new lady wham and dr karen whopersonis the fact that you know oh you’re justunlike women which is not truethat’s never been the case many of uswere actually excited to see what theywould do with the womanmany of us were of the impression thatmaybe right now in the modern day ofwokifying everything in the name ofdiversity and nothing elsereducing everybody to a label in astereotype might not be the best timefor itthey should have done it you know 20years agoprobably i mean they’ve already hadfemale time lordsbut no now they’re finally finallyrealizingthat we’ve been saying blame theshowrunner blame chin balls himselfoh yeah now screen rants is doing it toojody waker deserves better than chinballs doctor whowhy do i say chin balls because i amvery dyslexicand i cannot say chib gnaw withoutstumbling and stutteringand you know happens every time istumble and stuttertrue international depression we get ajoe biden moment we get a clipthat’s a terrible thingjody is a fantastic doctor but wasfailed by a showrunner who seemed tohave no clear ideas whathe wanted to do with the show that’spart of it that’s that’s part of it theydidn’t seem to have any directionthere was a lot of wandering aroundaimlessly calling to each othervery slowly in the dark for hoursthere was a lot of nothing going on itwas very boring and slowand it took itself way too seriously itwas way toooverly dramatic there was no fun andlife and there’syou need some life in doctor who youneed a reason to want to go on thejourney with the doctorinstead lady dr whammon who felt likegoing to the playgroundwith your mother and your grandfatherbecause you have tobecause you can’t be left alone forwhatever reasoni don’t know why and you got to bedragged along and you don’t want tobecause you’re just too old for thatcrapyou’re just too old for it and it’sboring and you’d rather be doinganything elseyou’d rather be playing pokemon oranythingchris chinball’s tenure as the doctorwho’s showrunner has been a gloriousfailurethey’re admitting it oh and jodiewhittaker deserved much betterthe time of the first female lady femaledoctor was unfortunatelydefined by erratic plotting see at leastthey’re finally admitting it they’re notjust saying oh you’re a bunch of istsand phobeswith the premier season that lackedclear direction and a sophomore seasonthat radically changed the nature of theshowironically jim balls accomplished thisby tryingto tie the newer season of doctor whomore firmly to the mythology of theclassic seriesby undoing it when you’re undoing ityou’re just telling me that all thesedoctors that i memorized the names andthe numbers ofand all of these plot lines and storiesand who went into what and whereit was all for naught you just undid ityou just told me that all those years ohyeahjust unlearn what you learned no we’rewe’re done doing thatyou tell us once and you figure this[ __ ] out before we all follow alonghow about that and then then we’llactually jump on board whateverbandwagon you’re having us hopon board i might be talking aboutsomething completely unrelated to doctorwho for all you knowbut that might be a tin foil moment andthat might be against youtube’s rulesor something at first glance chrischimbals seemed like a likely successorto follow stephen moffa as doctor who’sshowrunnerlike moffat chimbals was a fan of thedoctor who show and written severalepisodes of the seriesafter its revival in 2005. indeed chipnall waseffectively the head writer of the firsttwo series of the doctor who spit offtorchwoodhe was also the creator of the hitmystery series broadchurch which starredboth jodie whittaker and david tennanthere’s the thing with torchwood thoughit was an interesting show for meit didn’t feel like doctor who it feltlike another showwhich maybe that’s a compliment to theshow or didn’t feel exactly like evenevenevery spin-off of doctor who i think hasfelt differentthan doctor who it felt more like theadult edgygrown-up who and doctor who was kind oflike the all right we’re in thegoosebumps age group we’re in the 12to you know whatever the middle schoolearly middle school erathat’s what doctor who feels like itshould befriendly not aimed at not aimed at butfriendly enough to have that age groupattracted to iti think and you know nothing too gorynothing too gross nothingtoo adult nothing too grown upand when i’m coming to it and it’s justboringtalky drama stuff that takes itself waytoo seriously iyou know that that worked maybe intorchwood a lot of the more grown-upthemes worked therebut for doctor who i that’s not what i’mgoing to dr who for and that’swhy the sarah jane adventures when yougo and watch that that’s clearly aimedat a much younger demographicclearly for a much younger kittier likethat’s the show for seven-year-oldsi have no problem with it even thoughi’m not really a fan of the sarah janeadventures i think that’s probably whyit’s a little too young for medoctor who i i really you you neededsomething morefun for my for my taste anywayunfortunately while chibnall may havehad grand ideas for doctor whoand experience working with whitaker hedid not seem he did not seem to have aclear sense of how thefocus how to focus those ideas for theseriesor bring the best down in whitaker as aperformerhis first season as a showrunner lackedessential storylinesee this is what they’re going to do nowthey’re going to throw the old whitemale under the bus which is who all thepeople on twitter should have beenblaming in the first place since theyhave thisoh he’s just in a white dude sort ofthat little disdain in theirin their twitter presence you knowthat’s what they should have beenfocusing on in the first place insteadofus i mean it’s not our fault the showsucksyou don’t have to defend it just becauseit’s got a woman in front of the camerayou don’t have to defend it just becauseit’s diverse you can defend it or trashit forany reason because especially if itsucks like this modern lady wham anddoctor who erahis second series had a centralstoryline perhapsin response to the fan complaints it washeavily steeped in the lore of theclassic who seriesand made a number of radical changes yesit did in the midst of all this jodywhitakerrolled with the material she was givensomehow creating a character that wasstillrecognizable as a doctor despite havingso little chance to develop intosomething as revolutionary as the firstfemale should have beenshe really felt like she was doing adavid and david tennant impression to mein some ways in some places and then shewould kind of amp up the goofy facesyou know i don’t want to i’m not doinganymorethere’s some irony that in all thesuccess as a writer and producerchris chibnall’s time as doctor whoshowrunner seems to have beendefined by his first public appearanceas doctor who asthe doctor of who aficionado in 1986 atthe age of 16.chimneal represented the doctor whoappreciation society on the bbcpublic opinion series open aircriticizing the seasonalong doctor who’s story oh my god thatmakes it eveni forgot he was criticizing that becausei don’t like that one eitherit goes on too long it’s too boring andit’s too hard to watch in syndicationand in rerunsum routine doctor who very much what theaudience is expecting it’s not reallyvery challenging for them to watchoh oh you so why youwhy did you do it and it’s not so muchthe season-long art come on focusfocus it’s not so much the season-longarc that umthat i had a problem with it’s just thelong boringpart of it it’s it’s the long like youcan give it to me a little quickeri got [ __ ] to do you know you go alittle quick i i’m telling myself thattoo hereas an an indicative uh as inhe’s a trial of time lord as indicativeof the declining quality of the seriesthat has uh had experience through the80swell you also didn’t have douglas adamswriting anymore by then right am icorrect in that don’t you you guysremember more than meyoung chibnall complained that thestoryline while being the first todevote an entire seriesto a focused tale was highly derivativeof early episodes he’s thinking aboutthe final chapter the storyline theultimate foe in his regardsaying the episode was nothing more thanquintessential the doctor versus themaster episode despite its revelationthat the new villaincalled the valyard vailyard was acorrupt future do i remember this one infuture incarnation of the doctorso this goes deep into the lord see i’venever i never said that he’s not like ahuge fan and knows more about the lorethan especially me especially me ithere’s a lot more that i forgetthan i remember about the early episodesprobablyi’m just going by what i expect now inthe modern eraby you know i expect it to be a littlemore fun like the fun goosebumpsyno more than maybe a pg-13 sort ofratingit’s an adventure you know you want tobe swept along with this sexy dangerousolder guy who’s like oh he’s got thetwinkle in his eye and he’s kind ofinteresting and kind ofkind of a bad boy in some ways and youknow it’s not appropriate but you’regoing to do it anywaythat is my doctor who this one wasn’tandand again this goes back to my he-manargument where every fan is going tohave a different identifierevery fan is going to have a differentviewpoint and when you have thesefranchises and seriesthat go on and on and on for decadesyou’re going to have differentexperiences andhe’s giving us the doctor who that hewanted i i supposebut it’s certainly not the doctor whothat i wanted and a lot of us wereexpectingso when when you havesuch a huge clear group of the fans whoarenot happy by this you can see theratings just drop and drop and drop anddropthe numbers don’t lie you can’t deny themath in these thingsif this show were less preachy if thisshow were less oh just you’re just in awhite dudeif this show were less bitter and vilei think you would you would draw more ofa fan base you know ifif you had fewer of the fans that get ontwitter or the marketing accountsor the ones that call themselves bots ifyou had fewer of those peoplebeing so combative with any of us who docomplain for whatever reasonand i know you’re not going to justcontrol everybody to not argue butif you had fewer of those sort ofinteractionswe i totally forgot what i was talkingabout we probably have a better showyadiana basically they’re just blaminghim which is kind of hilariousthey’re basically saying hey youshouldn’t know about this is exactlywhat we’ve been saying with kevin smithlike hey you should have known betterchris channel is exactly the kevin smithof doctor who isn’t hehe’s the one who who went and threw atemper tantrum and complained anddissected what was wrong with itand he is the the fanboy he is likethese peopleare the fanboy man babies that they’rethat they’re mad at all of us for beingi am queen woman baby mecca follow me ontwitter andeverywhere and i’m going back to my livechat don’t you guys go anywhere they’reblaming chip nochimnalls chimnalls i almost said itright holy crapthanks for watching if you liked it makesure to hit that like button and if youwant to see more don’t 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